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>From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy
Subject: Re: SHRDLU's mind
Message-ID: <1992Apr8.191233.23785@mp.cs.niu.edu>
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:12:33 GMT
References: <1992Apr7.211232.6930@psych.toronto.edu> <1992Apr7.231721.2684@mp.cs.niu.edu> <1992Apr8.155719.10215@psych.toronto.edu>
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In article <1992Apr8.155719.10215@psych.toronto.edu> christo@psych.toronto.edu (Christopher Green) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.231721.2684@mp.cs.niu.edu> rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr7.211232.6930@psych.toronto.edu> christo@psych.toronto.edu (Christopher Green) writes:

>>>What you "like to think" has little bearing on the question. Surely
>>>whether SHRDLU, thermostats, and rocks have minds is an empirical
>>>question.
>>
>>  A precise, complete and unambiguous definition of "mind" please.  You
>>obviously have such a definition, since you declare the question to
>>be "empirical".
>>
>in advance. Do you honestly believe that the question of whether some  
>object has a mind is a logical question? That seems to be you primary

  It was you, not I, who claimed this was an empirical question.  If it is
an empirical question there is a generally accepted standard which can be
used as a measuring rod.  But you flat out reject the Turing Test.  In
fact your postings imply that there is nothing that would ever persuade
you that any computer program could ever have a mind.  Thus for you
it is not an empirical question, but a question of religious dogma.

>                                                             I always thought
>that psychology was an empirical science.

  I'll take the fifth on that :-) .

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  Neil W. Rickert, Computer Science               <rickert@cs.niu.edu>
  Northern Illinois Univ.
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