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>From: zeleny@zariski.harvard.edu (Mikhail Zeleny)
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Subject: Re: Zeleny (was Re: Searle
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Date: 10 Dec 91 05:04:48 GMT
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In article <1991Dec9.161328.16412@cherokee.uswest.com> 
ken@dakota (Kenny Chaffin) writes:

>In article <1991Dec8.180409.6324@husc3.harvard.edu> 
>zeleny@zariski.harvard.edu (Mikhail Zeleny) writes:

KAC:
>>>	Right, but that is only a level of abstraction, a method of 
>>>communicating, and a shared semantics. It has no bearing on the fact that
>>>symbols either represent something or not.

MZ:
>>Symbolic representation presupposes semantics.

KAC:
>	Does it?
>	Surely animal's have symbols in their minds of things, does this also
>include having semantics? Bee's for instance communicate with one another 
>through a dance. Do bees attach meaning to the various "words" and symbols in
>their dance?

If they communicate, they attach meanings to their utterances, whatever
form they might take.

>KAC


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