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>From: dow@idtg.UUCP (Keith Dow)
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Subject: Re: Scaled up slug brains
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Date: 19 Dec 91 19:25:01 GMT
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>>I guess that is why I put in the phrase "in or NEAR thermal equilibrium."
>
>Get a clue.  Thermodynamics NEAR thermal equilibrium is child's play.  The
>only trivial Nobel Prize in physics was for the buoy feedback thingamabob.

Go back and read my post again.  I said Statistical Mechanics and Thermal
dynamics.  If you think they are trivial, why don't you do research on
Spin-Glasses?  They are equivalent to neural networks, and some of the 
best brains have worked on them.  One more drop in the ocean won't hurt. 


>>That was experimental paper?  I thought ...
>
>Try not to think.  Go look up the papers I referenced.  They contain the
>references to the actual experiments that give the actual evidence for
>the existence of pumped phonon condensations in biological systems.


Did the experimental papers say "We have discovered a phonon pump"?  Or
is this some physicist interpreting their result? It seems to be the latter.
When the librararies open after the break, I will take a look.
 

>>Since there is no limit to how large a phonon wavelength can be, the phonons
>>have no ground state.  Therefore Bose-Einstein condensation doesn't apply 
>>to them at all.
>
>There is no limit to photon wavelength either, yet they manage to laser.



Yes but this has nothing to do with Bose-Einsten Condensation.  And that
was your claim.


