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From: stevens@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Greg Stevens)
Subject: Re: Thought Question
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In <3gc7p8$c3t@agate.berkeley.edu> <jerrybro@uclink2.berkeley.edu> writes:
>jsand@mits.mdata.fi (Jan Sand) wrote:

>] evolution that you speak of in the machines is totally 100% in the
>] -=>evolution of consciousness, or at the very minimum in the progressive
>] -=>learning, of the human beings who design and build them.

>] That's nonsense! The implication is, as in many of your other postings,
>] that humanity stands outside nature and is immune to natural law. Humanity
>] is as natural a force for evolution as any other. If machines evolve
>] towards more speed and power (and these are not the only criteria by far)
>] it is because these are the survival characteristics for this particular
>] line of machines.

>At least we can agree, hopefully, that cars don't reproduce by
>individually producing offspring, and so they are not selected through
>individual survival.  

The cars need hosts to reproduce.  They are parasites, needing to utilize
the human hosts to serve their own reproduction.  But they reproduce all
the same.

Greg Stevens


