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From: thantos@runic.mind.org (Alexander Williams)
Subject: Re: Beyond "Shadows of the Mind"
Organization: Runic Writings UUCP Site - Lawrenceville, GA
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Date: Tue, 20 Dec 1994 14:47:07 GMT
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In article <3d552v$epq@crl3.crl.com>, Walter Raisanen <azi@crl.com> wrote:
>Does anyone have a new idea to offer in all this muddle?

I'm hardly as well-educated or as well-paid as Penrose, but it seems
to me that self-reflective consciousness cannot ve ``algorithmically
specified,'' per se, currently or in the near future.  There are few
enough examples and none of them seem to be amenable to systemic
delving into their microcode.  Even if they were, my intuition
suggests that its not a matter of doing step A then step B
proceeding, et al, but something far more emergent.  The Boid 3-rule
flocking behaviour exemplifies how my concepts of consciousness hang
together; in them, simple axioms interact with both internal and
external states complexly, giving rise to behaviours that do not
exist, explicitly, in algorithim in a simple sense.


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