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From: vicc@ucc.su.oz.au (Vic Cinc)
Subject: Re: uploading
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glong@hoasys.isd1.tafensw.edu.au wrote:
: In article <D79KoC.EMt@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, vicc@ucc.su.oz.au (Vic Cinc) writes:
: > 
: > hi
: > 
: > here is interesting problem for the proponents of uploading. (tipler et al)
: > 
: > I experience the colour blue, but nowhere is there blue. The
: > light of that frequency has no "blue" in it, the rods(cones?) in my
: > eye have no blue in them, the neurons that carry the impulses to my brain
: > have no blue in it.  nowhere in my brain is there blue. and yet I am
: > concsious of "blue", clear as daylight, bright as the ocean. how on earth
: > are you going to simulate that inside software??????
: > This "blue" had the quality blue, even before I labeled it "blue",
: > If I label it green, the quality "blue" remains.

: But does it have a quality "blue"?  People can look at the same colour and
: relate it to similar hues, but that only tells us that something allows them to
: connect similar light frequencies.  Is the actual 'blueness' an internal
: construction - a case of the brain interpreting and classifying input.  If so,
: then does that mean that internal pictures of 'blue' may vary
: between individuals?

I cant answer this point, but as proffesional programer I know there
is nothing resembling consciousness in the programs I write and 
there is nothing resembling any "blue"ness anywhere inside a piece or
computer software. (unless it was bought from IBM :)

obviously the blue is a sense consciouness related to a frequency of light
striking the eye, but whether that quality was purple, red or green
there is still a conscious quality of colour.  absolutely nothing
implies how to construct that quality of colour in an artificial way.

Vic


