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Subject: Re: The Turing Test is not a Trick
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>From: markrose@spss.com (Mark Rosenfelder)
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In article <1992Jun19.155239.8157@oracorp.com> daryl@oracorp.com 
(Daryl McCullough) writes:
>I don't think anyone picks out verbal behavior as being the only way
>that intelligence can manifest itself. The point of the Turing Test is
>that sophisticated enough verbal behavior is a *sufficient* indication
>of intelligence.

If that's what you make of it, fine.  However, I think many people take
the Turing Test as a *definition* or at least a *characterization* of
intelligence.  I don't think it's up to that role.  

Nor do I think that AI should be oriented toward the narrow goal of passing 
the Turing Test.  (Not that it is; but from reading this newsgroup one
would think that the sole preoccupations of AI are passing the TT and
defeating Searle.) 

>Animals are capable of very complex behavior (beavers
>building dams, bees finding their way to fields of flowers) without
>what we would consider intelligence. I think that the kind of
>intelligence that humans seem capable of but animals are not is very
>bound up with our language abilities.

When beavers or bees can repair my bicycle I'll agree with you.

Repairing bicycles, autos, or space scooters requires mechanical agility,
knowledge of how the machine works, knowledge of repair techniques, 
flexibility and creativity, planning, visualization-- quite a few things
that in degree or in kind are beyond animals.


