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>From: yamauchi@cs.rochester.edu (Brian Yamauchi)
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Subject: Frogs vs. Robots (was Re: Transducers)
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Date: 17 Jun 92 04:40:33 GMT
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In article <60810@aurs01.UUCP> throop@aurs01.UUCP (Wayne Throop) writes:
>> rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
>>> throop@aurs01.UUCP (Wayne Throop)>
>>> From my own perspective, "AI" is currently able to produce things with
>>> "intelligence" somewhere between that of frogs and birds.
>> I really disagree with this.
>> If we knew how to produce the intelligence of a frog, we would be
>> well on the way to understanding how to produce human intelligence.

>The other issue is that, presumably, Neil thinks that current machines
>aren't up to frog-level of capabilities.  I'd be interested in an
>elaboration of this, in particular what do frogs got (in their functional
>capabilities) that at least some current computer processes ain't got
>(or at least got things very closely akin)?

Well for one thing, you can drop a frog in a pond, and there's a good
chance it will survive for quite a long time (years?  what is the
lifespan of a frog anyway?) without any human intervention whatsoever.

The same is not true about any mobile robot system currently in
existence -- even in an artificial environment with all of the
necessary resources (i.e. a building with recharger outlets).  At
least, I haven't heard of any mobile robot which can operate without
human intervention for a period of a month, much less multiple
years...
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Brian Yamauchi				Robotics Applications Development
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yamauchi@cs.rochester.edu		Kennedy Space Center
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