From dst+@cs.cmu.edu Mon Jun 24 22:07:58 EDT 1996 Article: 205726 of alt.religion.scientology Path: casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!dst From: dst+@cs.cmu.edu (Dave Touretzky) Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology,alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: RI- E-meter available freely to everyone Date: 25 Jun 1996 01:31:07 GMT Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Lines: 116 Message-ID: <4qnfgr$m6q@casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu> References: <199606241029.MAA14473@hera.easynet.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: dst.boltz.cs.cmu.edu Xref: dst.boltz.cs.cmu.edu alt.clearing.technology:19533 alt.religion.scientology:205726 In article <199606241029.MAA14473@hera.easynet.de>, Koos Nolst Trenite wrote: > >Dave Touretzky doesn't even know how to use an E-meter! >Yet he has the arrogance to pretend any relevance of data. Thanks for checking out my e-meter web page, Koos. That's http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter. An endorsement from you surely carries a lot of weight on these newsgroups. Heh heh. >Dave Touretzky is a very wrong address for learning about an E-meter. >He himself doesn't know how to use one, >the people he quotes as 'experts' do not know how to use one! The person who made the most substantial contributions to the page, besides myself, was David Carter, a New OT V completion and a Class VI auditor. I take sole responsibility for any errors on the page, but I *did* consult real experts. >Most data presented by Dave Touretzky are either false, > or they have no usefulness, except some drawings, > and probably an address (in the USA, New Hampshire, I presume) > for ordering E-meter needle-dials > (Jewell Electrical Instruments, > P.O. box 4038 Grenier Field, > Manchester NH. > Tel. 603-669-xxxx [sic from Dave's Web-page]), > from which he OMITS the phonenumber! Thanks for pointing this out. The number I had was garbled and I hadn't gotten around to calling New Hampshire information to get the correct one. Just did it in response to your post. The number is 603-669-6400. I will call these folks when I have time and find out current availability and pricing of the meter movement. Will that redeem me in your eyes, noble one? >On top of that, he tries some 'Keeping Scientology Working' > in order to try and stop you from building your own E-meter > for 50 US $. I just wanted people to be aware that duplicating a CoS meter is not as trivial as you made it sound. I still think that the meter is worthless, but I was interested in the technical question of how one would duplicate it. >This is the WHOLE philosophy of 'Keeping Scientology Working': > DON'T understand, > DON'T take responsibility, > DON'T use Scientology > unless you are Class XIII, fully trained, fully interned Auditor, > with three Mark Super VII E-meters which have > recently obtained a technical check and seal of approval > and have all fully charged batteries, > unless you are accompanied > by a complete pack of Correction Lists, and > unless you have the personal approval > of L. Ron Hubbard or David Miscavige. > >And if you don't have all these things, > PLUS a valid IAS, WISE and IHELP and OSA membership, > you are NOT allowed to help anybody - CERTAINLY NOT yourself - > and THAT is 'Keeping Scientology Working'. > ['OSA-membership' is a joke.] ROTFL! Very good, Koos!! I agree completely with the above. >Dave Touretzky does not WANT to use an E-meter True. I've played with mine a bit, but I have no desire to get trained. > and he WANTS that others do NOT use an E-meter. Others are free to do as they like. >He WANTS that others DO NOT use the discoveries > which are presented in the subject of Scientology. I want others to be aware that Scientology is a fraud. I've heard it can even cause brain damage. Or were you always this way? >Dave Touretzky and the sources he quotes, > like Chris Schafmeister, a doctoral student in biophysics who explained the Wheatstone Bridge >Martin Hunt, ex-Scn staff with 500 hours of auditing experience > Chris Owen, a critic who wrote a pretty decent essay on the meter > do NOT WANT that you use these discoveries > to make yourself more able and to get rid of disabilities. You forgot Arnie Lerma, ex-Sea Org staff who was personally involved in solving the problems with the Mark V meter being produced in the US by Delta Meter. >Do you get that? Well what do you expect from a bunch of evil suppressives? >They want that you DON'T use new discoveries, > they themselves DO NOT WANT to use new discoveries, > and they don't know how to use these new discoveries. People are free to do as they wish, as long as they don't victimize others. >Yet they have the arrogance and perverted desire to "inform" > you and others about the new discoveries. It's too late, Koos. You've already been informed. Now you know how a Wheatstone Bridge works, and you've seen the secret sacred circuit boards of the Mark Super VII. All thanks to me. Evil old me. -- Dave Touretzky, KoX (SP4+++++): bringer of unwelcome truths.